Jen and Rene just returned from a working vacation in Maui. In this video they discuss the up’s and down’s of running a business while on the road.

Jen had some important business matters to attend to while enjoying all the beauty Maui has to offer. There is a discussion on the nature of what it means to be an employee versus an employer.

In addition to work, they were also both attending Maui Swingescape. This is a West Coast Swing event where Jen and Rene learned, taught, and social danced.

Jen also talks about the different books she reads to help give her the inspiration and knowledge to help level up herself and her business. Meanwhile, Rene is very tired (he yawns alot) and notes that one of the most curious sights he witnessed was a flying chicken over two lanes of traffic.